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Civil twilight

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MissSoph created the topic: Civil twilight

Hey everyone...
Just a question about civil twilight...

The vfrg says that sunrise and sunset Term has no relevance....
So if I was conducting a vfr planned flight, then I would not be able to take off until beginning of civil twight ?(first light)

But in amongst everything... I vaguely remember something about 30 mins before civil twilight... perhaps in the CAO? ( maybe something to do with duty times.?)
Have I just mixed up something....
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