Hi all can anyone tell me where the new conversion tables and wind component tables and the AM radio stations for ADF are located.they used to be in GEN -CON in ersa nov 2020 cheers
AIP GEN 2.6
Ok I found the conversion tables in aip . Do you know where the am commercial radio stations are now listed ? They used to be in ersa cheers mark
Maybe they didn't pay fees to Airservices for advertisements in ERSA ?
In-flight bluetooth streaming is the way to go.
For exam purposes, HF area frequencies are in PCA.
No it wouldn’t have been anything to do with advertising as all the Usable ADF commercial radio stations with the coordinates used to be published in Ersa For all the states.Cause you will need the coordinates of that station cheers mark
Where does it say that commercial radio stations could/should be used for purpose of navigation or flight planning ?
Well that’s exactly my question because they used to be printed in the Ersa as a source of navigation
Commercial radio stations positions were never "a source of navigation".
As per AIP GEN 2.5, radio navigation aids are identified in ERSA FAC section for each location under NAVIGATION AIDS.
On the side note, if you get a question on exam what would you do if you are lost and one of the answers says use commercial radio station from ERSA - that would be an incorrect answer. The correct answer is contact ATC.
[quote="Bosi72" post=13705]Commercial radio stations positions were never "a source of navigation".
As per AIP GEN 2.5, radio navigation aids are identified in ERSA FAC section for each location under NAVIGATION AIDS.
On the side note, if you get a question on exam what would you do if you are lost and one of the answers says use commercial radio station from ERSA - that would be an incorrect answer. The correct answer is contact ATC.
The Ersa page is showing lots of warnings and cautions, including broadcast relays. Imagine tuning into a station, but presenter is announcing a different callsign. Very confusing. On top of it, Lat/Long are listed in old AGD66 datum, so the station is not where it says.
What is "Online aviation theory" ? Looks like some application or a website.
I suggest stick to Aip/Ersa.
You did say “NEVER” didn’t you? Online aviation theory by Ron Newman -60 years in aviation.so if anyone ELSE knows the answer to my question .cheers mark
Assuming you have a cpl or ppl, did you use commercial radio stations for navigation/planning purposes in your Navs?
Why don't you ask Ron Newman or your instructors what happened to AM stations and share the knowledge.
Always keen to learn something new.
[color=blue][i][b]Online aviation theory by Ron Newman -60 years in aviation.[/b][/i][/color]
I haven't looked at Ron's training material so I can't comment there. However, I have known him for many years dating back to the late-70s when he set up the Vicpol Airwing helo operation as engineering manager under Nev Balding and I was an Industry design engineering consultant to the organisation.
A fine fellow, is our Ron.
Engineering specialist in aircraft performance and weight control.
Yes he set up profesional Helicopter Services at Moorabbin which is still going but he’s retired now and Runs the helicopter online training theory
A. Nobody is going to use them for planned navigation but they might get you out of trouble if you need it, hence why they were in ERSA. For example, you’re flying to a small town with no navaids but you know they’ve got an AM station. You could use that at the very least to home to the station if you experienced a ‘period of uncertainty’, which is a pretty common scenario since 2016 when most navaids were switched off.
B. Sometimes we’re somewhere unfamiliar and want to know how the cricket is going.
They’re not a source of navigation and there was a massive disclaimer at the beginning of the section to reaffirm that.
